Well I finally did it, I bought a used set of ITP 589's and ITP type 4 wheels today for $500.00 bucks out the door. The tires seem to only have slight wear? I couldn't compare them to new ones but they look in really good shape, lots of tread left and no punctures/patches. The wheels are in really nice shape as well, only one has a slight scrape. The tires are 27-9-12's and 27-11-12's. Does this sound like a pretty decent deal? The tires brand new would have cost me over $600.00 with taxes alone. Now I am thinking I will probably have to put a clutch kit in and probably over fenders for sure. Well no more Kenda Bearclaw talk from me I guess?........Irv