What you read about h.l.'s forum... I also read on this very forum. I think it was Rob who (don't quote me) said that, but I'm not sure. I have simply compared their products' prices with those of others, for example, their temp gauge. JTATV makes one **** of a temp gauge with more features than h.l.'s (backlighting, flush plastic mount instead of the ugly handlebar mount, etc.) for about 10 bucks less! They just seem too money hungry. I guess h.l. is just using smart marketing by selling alot of products that nobody can get anywhere else. I think the radiator/fan combo may just be one of those products, to answer your other question. later!