the rhino IS the grizzly. the rhino has all engine, suspension etc from the grizz. i've looked at one but i know i dont want to pay the 14,000 canadian price tag for one. i am getting an 06 grizz 660 in july or august this summer, i am buying it in alberta as i will be living there and working on the rigs. at one of our local Fall Fairs yamaha always has a display dealy and i asked on of the employee's the price tag of a grizz after taxes in BC, its 14,000 canadian after taxes OTD. so i'd rather spend the same amount of money on a grizz thats 1/2 the weight of a rhino. dont get me wrong i think the rhino is nice but im not about to fork out 14,000 for a machine thats 1100 pounds. now i've heard some real good things about the rhino and it will go everywhere other quads will go. the only limitations you have by a rhino is height, i've heard they are not too much wider than say a grizz, like maybe 2-3 inches wider and thats it. if you want more info go check out atvnation.com, "The Finn" has a rhino and he has done some mods to his. and he's happy with it. he could prolly tell you everything you need to know bout the rhino.